Posts made by Sharky-PI

Through years of mostly unsuccessfully migrating across music players, my play counts have generally been reset each time, sadly.

Happily, strawberry saves these to the ID3s, which is great going forward.

However I've noticed that some of my files (about 1990 of 43878 tracks) have play counts increasing from the twenties, to hundreds, thousands, and lots of tens of thousands, 5 digits, specifically with blocks at
10496
16896 (loads of these)
25856
Max = 65335

Then I have two, one with 6384640 & one with 6881400.

Whole albums typically have the same playcount.

I'm not blaming strawberry for this, just wondering if there's any underlying structure/logic which could be extracted.
Ideally some simple mathematical conversion to play count. But I'm not holding my breath!

Any ideas, genius, wisdom, etc, appreciated.
Cheers!

@Sharky-PI adding info to this thread: searching the collection by
genre:microhouse
does find the example track, as does searching by
genre:clownpenis
So manual search works for semicolon-separated-subgenres, just not the GUI dropdown system.

@jonas alas. It wouldn't be possible to just modify the Collection > Genre view system to

1. Start with the existing genres
2. Remove all entries with ";" into a separate pool, keep the remainder in the 'main pool'
3. Split those by ";" into unique genres
4. Add that result to the 'main pool' from step 2?

@erdbär great news! Thanks for the info

Hi @jonas any chance of adding BPM and Key as options for columns?

@jonas hi again. Any chance you could look into this? It looks like all that would need to change for Strawberry to allow multiple genres, is for the genres sidebar in Collection to split tracks by semicolon and display the same track under both (or more) genre dropdowns.

@jonas oh nice. In which case - any chance these could be added as column options? Cheers!

@jonas hi again. Any chance the genres listing code could be tweaked to parse semicolon-separated entries into their 2 (or more) constituent genres?

I.e. in the example above: the specific song would be populated to Microhouse, and ClownPenis, but there would be no entry for "Microhouse;Clownpenis"

Cheers!

@jonas any chance you could let us know if there's scope to add BPM and Key? Or whether this would require a ton of work if TagLib doesn't support it?

This has come up various times before (1,2,3,4).

Thanks!

@jonas any thoughts about this, chap?

This is as much of a discussion than a specific request.

Previously requested here, (separate with ; ), here (for Subsonic, also separates with ; ), and here (general discussion).

Foobar & some others support using ; to separate within field.

OneTagger supports it but uses subgenres - I'm not fully sure how, though one option is by using a custom separate field; more info here.

Beets has canonical nested genres which is pretty cool.

Already in Strawberry if you tag a track with multiple genres split by ; e.g. "Microhouse;ClownPenis", that track will appear in a search for genre:microhouse and also genre:clownpenis, so that's great already. Similarly smart playlists work for "genre contains" any of multiple semicolon-separated terms.

A downside is that if you group your collection by genre, the full term is shown, not both separate terms, which will cause the genres grouping to become nightmarishly messy.

So I think feature request 1 is to allow Collection views which contain Genre to split tracks by semicolon and display the same track under both (or more) genre dropdowns.

Keen for your thoughts. Cheers!

@rlkeeney @jonas thanks lads, sorry, only just saw these replies.

Ok so for MP3 ID3v2.4 I shouldn't need to do anything given I have those 4 options ticked, i.e.:

• Once a track has finished playing in Strawberry
  -- if I've rated it in Strawberry, Strawberry should save the rating to the file
  -- Strawberry should increment the playcount +1 and save that to the file
• If I edit a track externally (for reference, I would only be saving other tag fields, never rating nor playcount) Strawberry will re-read the track... so if I listen to a track in Strawberry, rate it, the track ends and the rating and playcount are updated by Strawberry to the track's ID3, then I change the track's comment externally, Strawberry should subsequently re-read the track's info (when it does a full scan?) and see the updated comment, and the rating & playcount should still be correct?

I might need to do some testing on that last one. For some reason it seems I have LOADS of tracks I've definitely played countless times, which have playcount=0, and similarly loads I've played and rated which have blanks for both. In the meantime I've edited various ID3 details for those tracks, but as I understand it, that should never compromise the playcounts and ratings, so it seems something is behaving incorrectly...

@jonas Hi Jonas, any thoughts about this bud? Strawberry definitely isn't saving playcounts and ratings to song tags and they're being lost, which is frustrating because I've been deliberately listening to and ratings tracks, only for many of those ratings to be lost. Cheers for any info you can share, hopefully this will reveal some underlying behaviour which might be possible to improve so the functionality improves. Thanks!

@jonas fabulous stuff, sorted, cheers mate

@silver-sun said in Comment tag incorrectly displays "0" for some files with correctly populated Comment tags, from Gapless Playback & iTunSMPB fields:

Perhaps the "0" value displayed is a result of Strawberry trying to do something it can't. (just a guess).

Thanks bud. I too suspect the 0 value reveals an underlying bug or fallback behaviour which is undesired. Hence why other files errantly display "000000 [etc]" from the iTunSMPB field.

If I could work out what Strawberry is doing in the backend, this would reveal if it's a bug, or a deliberate functional choice, in which case I can probably work around it, e.g. deleting the gapless playback field or whatever.

Cheers!

@jonas ditto sorry to bump but I'd love to find out how this works under the hood, and therefore whether I should change the last two of these settings, and/or should be clicking the button every time I close Strawberry. If these metadata aren't being saved to files in a timely manner then I propose this is a bug or at least a potential point for improvement. Thanks.

@jonas sorry to bump but any chance you could have a look at this for me? I'm happy to send any files required. This feels like a bug. Thanks.

@jonas hi again, while I'm on the board, I don't suppose you could have a look at this & LMK your thoughts could you? I'd love to fix this. Happy to share file examples or screenshots as needed. Thanks!

@jonas please could you explain what this means?

I've been going through playlists deliberately tagging untagged files for ratings, which should also have been populating the playcounts. I've never manually clicked that "save playcounts now" deep menu button until now, and it seemed to process a huge amount of stuff in the background.

Is there a way to force writing after each song is finished?

Am I right in presuming that the last two items mean that any tracks that are moved or altered outside of strawberry, without first saving to tags, would be those tag saves get overwritten?

Currently there are loads of files I'm 99% sure I rated and have definitely listened to.

Would be v keen to know how it's possible to ensure everything is saved to files asap.

Cheers!

@rlkeeney Thanks for the idea RL. Sadly some of the culprits don't have 2 comments, e.g.: